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Post by JasonPensa on Oct 14, 2003 15:52:32 GMT -5
I see, so if we take the description of a mythlogical animal that happens to have the same name, as a beast we find in the Bible we auotmatically assume that the two different sources are talking about the same thing and therefore, that makes the Bible untrue because it talks about a "mythilogical creature"??
I apologize if I come accross harsh, or uncaring... I am really smiling and having a fun debate here! ;D However, I do take this seriously too, when talking about the Bible, you must use your debate mind, do not jump to conclusions... it's dangerous.
His Servant, Jason
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Post by MarySchuhriemen on Oct 17, 2003 12:47:47 GMT -5
I'm not saying the Bible is untrue! I'm saying that the Bible does not always use examples of real animals and things when they explain something. And, what other thing is called a phoenix?
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Post by StephenColbert on Oct 21, 2003 10:04:41 GMT -5
there r lizards that have glands that shoot these chemicals and when the join it makes fire
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Post by MarySchuhriemen on Oct 21, 2003 15:24:30 GMT -5
Stephen, are you talking about modern lizards, or extinct lizards? I've never heard of any that shoot out fire !
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Post by StephenColbert on Oct 28, 2003 15:05:24 GMT -5
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Post by DavidRojas on Oct 28, 2003 15:48:37 GMT -5
I don't think a role-playing website listing phoenixes as being "extremely rare, and protected by law" is quite a valid source, Stephen. FYI, salamanders do not spit fire.
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Post by StephenColbert on Oct 28, 2003 16:28:43 GMT -5
I know Thats just the first thing i found but there is (or was) some thing that did. and it was a chemical reaction that made the fire.
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Post by MarySchuhriemen on Nov 6, 2003 16:30:17 GMT -5
Stephen, I looked at the site. If you go to their homepage, you find that they are a fantasy site! They are talking about an imagionary world! They are not credible enough for me to accept that lizards spit out fire.
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Post by DavidRojas on Nov 13, 2003 22:34:11 GMT -5
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Post by MarySchuhriemen on Nov 20, 2003 21:54:08 GMT -5
Can you find me a scientist that says that? I don't know anything about the site, but from what I've seen, it looks as if it is "biased" in your favor of Young earth Creation (not that it's a bad site!). Find me a scientist who also says this, please.
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Post by DavidRojas on Nov 20, 2003 23:12:55 GMT -5
Can you find me a scientist that says that? I don't know anything about the site, but from what I've seen, it looks as if it is "biased" in your favor of Young earth Creation (not that it's a bad site!). Find me a scientist who also says this, please. Haha... biased? What makes you think a website entitled "Answers in Genesis" might be biased towards a literal Genesis account? I am appalled at your accusation. After a brief search on Google, I came across these websites... Brachinus fumansHutchinson Encyclopediawww.talkorigins.org/faqs/bombardier.htmlwww.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB310.html(Although these two specific sources and articles favor intelligent design, they do come from a website that generally covers both sides of the "Creation/Evolution Controversy.")
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Post by MattBeifuss on Dec 5, 2003 23:08:59 GMT -5
Race, I've never heard of anyone who doesn't believe that Dinosaurs exist. Do you have a link or something to provide an example? Personally, I'm a theistic evolutionist, (NO. IT IS NOT A CONTRADICTION OF TERMS.) and I've never seen anything to say that dinosaurs never existed.
<G> Sorry, Steven, but yes, the salamander (as you've described it) is a legendary beast. As for the bombardeer beetle, the argument raised by its unique defense mechanism relies heavily on a misunderstanding of evolutionary theory.
(snip) I had a far longer quote, but it wasn't on topic. I've moved it to a new thread on evolution/creation in general.
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Post by MarySchuhriemen on Dec 8, 2003 13:24:36 GMT -5
just a thought on the beetles:
Does this prove that dinos were around at the time of Job? After all, is the beetle a dino? And all that I've researched on dinos, they didn't "breathe fire". That was attributed to the mythologicle (sp?) dragons.
Also, when do you think the dinos died out? You say the flood, but then you also claim that they were around with Job. When did they go?
Also, if they were around the time of Noah, God told Noah to bring some of every animal....so why did Noah apparently disobey God by letting the dinosaurs drown?
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Post by DavidKuntz on Dec 11, 2003 21:27:34 GMT -5
I believe in a young earth, about 6,000 years old. I believe that God created the earth in 6 days. I believe that God created all creatures about the same as they are now with slight differences (God commanded animals to reproduce after their own kind). I don't believe that animal species can significantly change over any period of time-they have to stay within their own DNA characteristics.
I believe that all creatures existed at the same time (ALL the animals were brought to Adam). I believe that Dinosaurs have been over-hyped by evolutionists trying to create a moot point. I believe that they did exist at the same time as humans, and that they probaly died off after the flood. A really great book on this is called "Dinosaurs and the Bible"
And although I don't believe in an old earth, I don't believe that people who believe that God created the world 6 billion years ago do not believe the Bible.
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Post by DavidRojas on Dec 11, 2003 21:40:56 GMT -5
Does this prove that dinos were around at the time of Job? After all, is the beetle a dino? And all that I've researched on dinos, they didn't "breathe fire". That was attributed to the mythologicle (sp?) dragons. I personally do not believe that that particularly beetle proves or disproves anything. In addition, I have never heard of any fire-breathing animals/dinosaurs. Also, when do you think the dinos died out? You say the flood, but then you also claim that they were around with Job. When did they go? Job probably lived relatively soon after the flood. The dinosaurs may not have gone extinct immediately afterwards. Also, if they were around the time of Noah, God told Noah to bring some of every animal....so why did Noah apparently disobey God by letting the dinosaurs drown? I have never heard that argument... where have you heard mention that Noah might have let dinosaurs drown? And although I don't believe in an old earth, I don't believe that people who believe that God created the world 6 billion years ago do not believe the Bible. Agreed. I myself am not completely against the idea of an old earth. I generally share you views, David.
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